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on WNYC and WNYC. With me now, the president of Princeton University, Christopher Icegruber. He has a new book called Terms of Respect, how colleges get free speech right. It's an interesting title at a time when critics on both the left and the right and free speech purists without a political side, all say colleges are getting it

wrong. Christopher Icegruber has been the Princeton president since 2013. He has the unusual,

perhaps, academic track of having been a physics major at Princeton in the 80s, but then going on to

become a constitutional lawyer, including as a clerk for Supreme Court Justice,

Lewis Powell. He has written provocative books before, including one about undemocratic features of the U.S.

Constitution, one that proposed reforming the Supreme Court justice selection process,

and one about the Constitution and religious liberty that argued that religion gets treated as both too privileged and too punished by modern applications of the wall of separation between religion and government as people see it.

Maybe we'll touch on some of the themes of those older books as they relate to the new one about speech on campus.

In a nutshell, Ice Gruber argues that there can be a balance between

free speech and respectful inclusivity. We'll see how he thinks we get there. I should also say

President Icegruber has been in the news this year for being outspoken early on about what he

called the Trump administration's attack on Columbia University, presenting what he called the

greatest threat to American universities since the Red Scare of the 1950s. A lot has happened

since he wrote those words in the Atlantic in March, so we'll talk about that, as well as, of course,

the new book, which again is called Terms of Respect, How Colleges Get Free Speech Right.

President Icegruber, thanks for coming on to discuss this vital topic.

Welcome to WNYC.

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