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Well, I'm glad we're getting a chance to talk.

We started to talk a little bit about so you've got a new book out.

And I've got a new book out at the same time.

I've even seen some ads where they put them alongside one another for Christmas recommendations.

So we're we're joined that they hit that way.

And of course we come from similar backgrounds that we're talking about before.

We both came out of sports.

And we both have gone into other areas that people have come to know us a little bit better.

Your book, the president and the freedom fighter, my book, The Distrangement and the Lifeboat,

which I appear.

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