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I am so good, radio free Mormon. Life treating you well. Oh, better than I deserve, my friend. You look like you're fresh from the barber shop. Yeah, this is, it's a haircut. I'm not sure if it's a good one or a bad one,

but it is a haircut nonetheless. I hope you didn't leave a tip. How's, how's that Huntsman trial doing?

Oh, great. Wonderful news. I expect James Huntsman's attorneys are just waking up about this time after an all-night bender in celebration of that ruling that we covered last night at Mormonism, excuse me, Mormon stories.

Yeah. They probably had a lot of fun celebrating after all of that, huh? Oh, yeah, I did. I got like an hour of sleep last night. But I'm here. Do you think that thing has some merit?

Do you think we were talking about this earlier? Do you think this has legs under it? The ruling says it all.

So it doesn't make any difference. What I think, two out of three judges say yes and so it goes forward.

And on to the next stage we go. Yes. Awesome. Well, do you want to tell us anything,

wonderful, exciting in your life, any announcements that you have to make before we introduce

the subject of tonight show? Just got back, you know, I was here last week, of course, but got back

to the Grand Canyon. It's such a beautiful thing and just trying to get back into the swing of things,

and life is good. No, we can, maybe it'll put some things in the the swing of things, and life is good.

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Okay, well, fantastic.

Now, as most of you probably know, Dan Vogel, a preeminent historian on things, all things Joseph Smith,

and most things Mormonism, wrote a book recently, came out a couple of months ago. He was doing the circuit. Part of the circuit included our show where he came on to talk about his new book,

Charisma Under Pressure, which deals with Joseph Smith from the years 1831 to 1839.

He's already written a previous volume about Joseph Smith before 1831, and he'll be writing and probably is working on it right now.

Another book during the Navu period about Joseph Smith.

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