Hi, it's Mark Stenson. What challenges are you facing? Are you looking for a different creative

solution? That probably means making a new creative connection. So today let's learn from Oscar winning producer Brian Grazer.

Unlocking, your world of creativity with Mark Stinson.

In his book, Face to Face, Brian Grazer reveals his experience in the art of human connection.

You know Brian Grazer best from his iconic movies and television shows like a beautiful mind

empire arrested development American gangster and eight mile in this book

face to face he takes us around the world and behind the scenes to show us how much in-person

encounters have revolutionized his life and how they have the power to change yours too.

He says that deep down all of us have doubts and

insecurities we use people's eyes as a gauge to see whether we can trust

them and when we find openness and attentiveness there we're more likely to let ourselves be vulnerable and share.

When we listen, when we're listened to, we also feel understood and validated.

When we feel that kind of validation, then we like the person.

When we like the person, we trust them and when we trust them we're more inclined to bear

our essential and authentic selves in order to form deeper, more meaningful

bonds that transcend the small talk and cookie cutter conversation.

Now he says that a big part of the reason people open up face to face to people like Oprah is because they see a sincere interest and concern in the way they look at them.

For example, Oprah is unreservedly herself and she makes others want to be the same in her presence.

Brian Grazer says he has tremendous admiration for Oprah in this regard and strives to approach others with the same kind of honesty and

authenticity if he finds that he's not pushing himself to be the true and raw person that he can be when he's face to face with someone,

then he's not maximizing that moment for them.

Finally, he says, meeting another person's gaze can feel awkward,

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