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Would that be a title that gets added to him? I doubt that, but if, you know, Billy wants to... Look, as you said earlier, Billy doesn't want to be the next general manager, but, you know, if he came to me and said, hey, I may want to do a Brad Stevens situation.

I would sit down and listen to Billy. I don't think that's where his head's at. Right, right. But, no, so I don't think, I don't think Billy cares about titles. Billy cares about, you know, being a head coach, and he cares about the players and cares about the organization. I think that's what's the most important thing. I hate getting so bogged down in titles. I think what's more important is what your responsibilities are, what input do you have? I mean, the difference between the title of director

of basketball operations and head coach is fairly significant. Big difference there. I agree. That

title signifies a lot different. I don't know if Billy Donovan wants the Brad Stevens experience, you know, wants that.

I know it seems like a nice life for Brad Stevens.

Was he 49 years old?

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