Brian Buckbee and Carol Ann Fitzgerald, WE SHOULD ALL BE BIRDS: A Memoir
Totally Booked with Zibby
Zibby Owens
4.4 • 602 Ratings
🗓️ 7 August 2025
⏱️ 27 minutes
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Zibby chats with co-authors Brian Buckbee and Carol Ann Fitzgerald about their debut memoir, WE SHOULD ALL BE BIRDS, a charming and poignant story about chronic illness, unlikely friendship, and a pigeon named Two Step. Brian shares how his debilitating condition led to a transformative bond with a bird who literally landed in his hands, while Carol explains how a series of Facebook posts turned into a full-length book that is equal parts heart-wrenching and heartwarming. Together, they reflect on pain, connection, humor, and finding meaning in the smallest creatures.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, this is Zibi Owens, and you're listening to Totally Booked with Zibby. Formerly, moms don't have time to read books. In my daily show, I interview today's latest, best-selling, buzziest, or underrated authors and story creators, whose work I think is worth your time. As a bookstore owner, publisher, author, and obviously podcaster, I get a comprehensive |
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| 0:29.3 | have to. |
| 0:30.3 | Stay in the know, get insider insights, and connect with guests like I do every single day. |
| 0:36.2 | For more information, go to zibbmedia.com and follow me on Instagram |
| 0:40.2 | at Zibby Owens. Brian Buckby and Carol Ann Fitzgerald are the authors of We Should All Be Birds, |
| 0:50.0 | a memoir. Brian Buckby lives in Missoula, Montana. He is co-founder of the 406 Writers' Workshop. His stories |
| 0:56.8 | have appeared in The Sun, the Georgia Review, the Mid-American Review, Shenandoah, the Southern Review, and |
| 1:01.9 | elsewhere. Caroline Fitzgerald is a former editor at The Sun and the Oxford American. Her fiction |
| 1:07.6 | and nonfiction have been published in Plow Shares, The Oxford American, the Sun, the OA book of great music writing, and elsewhere. |
| 1:14.4 | She lives in Chapel Hill. |
| 1:15.6 | Welcome, Brian and Carol. |
| 1:17.5 | I'm so delighted to have you both on to discuss We Should All Be Birds a memoir. |
| 1:22.4 | Thanks for coming on. |
| 1:24.0 | Thank you for having us. |
| 1:25.2 | So explain how the two of you met up and how this book came to me. Please. Thank you for having us. So explain how the two of you met up and how this book came to me, please. |
| 1:31.8 | Okay, so I think there's two different periods here, which I think of as BCA and ACA. That's before Carol Am and after Carolamam so before carolam i was simply putting up a post on |
| 1:49.4 | facebook and i really never use social media but i found this pigeon and this pigeon had been |
| 1:57.5 | become very special to me so on national bird day a few years ago, I put one post on |
| 2:03.1 | Facebook with a link to a couple of charities and a short description of why I was asking people to |
| 2:08.7 | donate to charities. But the thing is, people who read the post wrote me back and said, well, I'd like to hear |
| 2:15.9 | some more about this. So, and when I'd like to hear some more about this. |
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