This is the reason interview with Nickillespie, and I need to tell you something really, really, really important about economic and political scam.

You don't get con because you're stupid. You get conned because you're human. That's the urgent message of today's guest, Brian Brushwood.

He's an Austin-based magician podcaster and professional

skeptic. With shows like Scam Nation and The Modern Rogue, he's taught millions of us how to

upgrade our BS detectors in a world where truth is more up for grabs than ever before.

We talk about the World's Greatest Khan, his mind-blowing podcast series where he unpacks

grifts like Disney World's authoritarian Epcot Center, the psychic soldier panic of the Cold

War, and the myth that the French use magic tricks to subdue colonial Algeria.

Along the way, we also look at how media monocultures used to

gate keep truth and how the chaotic pluralism of the Internet is both a blessing and a curse.

Rushwood's a dyed-in-the-wall libertarian who celebrates decentralization, transparency, and

personal agency, even, maybe especially when it's messy.

We talk about the influence of performers like The Amazing Randy and Penn and Teller,

why teaching magic online pissed off the old garden, and why skepticism has to evolve or die

in a world full of customized realities.

Buckle up for a fast, fun, head spinning ride through epistemology, performance, and

freedom.

Here is the Reason interview with Brian Brushwood.

Brian Brushwood, thanks for talking to Reason.

Thank you for having me, man.

I want to, you know, for having me, man. Okay.

I want to, you know, you are a podcast or a magician, a debunker of bullshit and things like that.

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