Brexit is dead. Long live the future
The Two Matts
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4.4 • 523 Ratings
🗓️ 20 May 2025
⏱️ 52 minutes
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Summary
The Matts are on something of a high. This week’s EU deal suddenly feels much more consequential than they’d expected. Credit (for once) to Starmer … even in his technocratic monotone, he presided over a clear vibe shift in the UK’s relationship with the EU. No, it doesn’t go nearly far enough. No, it’s not rejoin. But yes … it’s a new pathway and it feels like we have, finally, a PM willing to start fixing the mess of the last 9 years. The hard yards start now, but at least we can be confident that we’ve won the argument, Brexit is definitively a dud, and the future beckons. Enjoy.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi there, this is Matt Kelly, the editor-in-chief of the New European newspaper and one half of the |
| 0:05.9 | two mats podcast. Just before we get into the podcast, I want to run past you a proposal. I know that many |
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| 0:53.4 | anywhere. So act now. It won't be there forever. |
| 1:13.4 | Hello and happy Tuesday. |
| 1:14.7 | Happy Tuesday one and all. |
| 1:16.4 | It is a happy Tuesday today, isn't it? You know, it's really funny because we've done Ponquier-Starma almost on a daily basis, it sometimes seems. |
| 1:23.6 | But one of the nice things I was thinking I was walking here is that we've got the opportunity today to be rather nice about him. |
| 1:30.5 | Because I think, I mean, with some reservations, I think that his EU-UK reset announcement yesterday with Ursula von der Leyen, the European Commission President, Antonio Costa, the President of the European Council, was rather good. |
| 1:45.5 | Now, shall we, just to get us in the mood... |
| 1:48.2 | Let's get a flavour of the great orator. |
| 1:50.9 | Let's not go that far. |
| 1:52.0 | The chef's kiss of his golden oratory. |
| 1:54.6 | Yeah, yeah. |
| 1:55.7 | It's time to look forward. |
| 1:57.4 | It's time to move on from the stale old debates and political fights to focus on delivering |
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