Brexit And Beyond with Professor Stephen Weatherill

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🗓️ 7 May 2021

⏱️ 25 minutes

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In this episode, our special guest Professor Stephen Weatherill, Professor of European Law, University of Oxford speaks to host Anand Menon. They discuss the UK's Internal Market, why Stephen think it's divisive and divided, and whether lawyers should have done a better job in explaining to the public during the Brexit debate. And, of course, they talk European Super League.

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0:00.0	Hi everyone and welcome to this latest edition of the UK and changing Europe's Brexit and beyond podcast.
0:11.7	And my guest this week is Professor Stephen Wetherill, who is, would you believe, Jack DeLaw Professor of EU Law at the University of Oxford.
0:20.2	Hi, Steve.
0:23.2	Hi, Alan, and I'm very happy to be here today.
0:28.5	Full disclosure, Steve and I are friends. We go back a long way. We've even written together. So if this sounds a bit chummy, that's why. More to the point, Steve has just produced for us a working paper,
0:34.3	which I recommend to you most strongly about the UK's internal market. I think it's
0:38.9	fair to say in this working paper, Steve, that you don't exactly pull your punches. And specifically,
0:44.7	one of the things you say about it is the UK has created for itself an internal market that is
0:49.5	divided and divisive. Can you just explain what you mean by that? Yeah, we've got a problem here that has
0:55.8	been submerged while the United Kingdom was a member of the European Union. It has urged once
1:01.8	Brexit has occurred. And the problem is maintaining the integrity of the internal market of the
1:07.2	United Kingdom. For bits to the United Kingdom, they have in different ways, different
1:11.8	regulatory competencies. Problem is, what if they regulate the market in different ways? Different
1:18.0	ways for Northern Ireland, different ways for Scotland, different ways for Wales, ways for Wales,
1:21.9	and different ways for England. And the divided bit is that Northern Ireland is subject to a separate set of rules
1:29.3	from the rest of the protocol, whereas Scotland and Wales are subject to the rules of the internal
1:34.6	market, which might be subverted by the Internal Market Act. And the consequence of this are quite
1:40.1	interesting. I mean, on the one hand, you have a single, the Northern Ireland point is
1:44.6	fascinating in the sense that you have sort of a separation in regulatory terms between Northern
1:49.4	Ireland and the UK. But within the UK, one of the things you argue that's quite interesting
1:53.3	is that this isn't neutral. This in fact creates a deregulatory dynamic across the UK. Can you
1:58.9	give a practical example of how that might work? Yeah, I can. The way that
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