Hi and welcome to this next Brexit and Beyond podcast and I'm delighted that our guest this week is

Danny Dalling who is Halford McKinner Professor of Geography at the University of Oxford.

Hiya, Danny. Hiya.

I have to start off by showing off and say, I have read a book by Halford McKinder.

Oh, well done. Which one? Is this on how to control the globe?

Democratic ideals and reality, I think it was cool.

Oh, that was one of the nicer ones, yes.

Yeah, yeah, but it was just before Brexit and before this project started, my next project was going to be a book about Indian foreign policy.

And everyone was talking about Eurasia at the time.

And I sort of discovered McKinder and yeah yes that he had a theory that

whoever controls the world island you know Eurasia can control the world unfortunately this led

to the United States thinking it really needed to control Eurasia and hence things like

Vietnam as well.

I still have I have relatives who refer to Western Europe as West as West Asia because

if India's South Asia then Europe is West Asia but anyway we'll leave that for now.

Danny has written I looked at your CV online actually.

I didn't read it all because I didn't have a few days spare, but 42 books.

So I'm going to start you off, Danny, with an easy one.

Which one are you most proud of?

Oh, the one I like the most is a little book called The 32 Stops, which is about the central

line in London.

It's my only slightly fiction book. So that's my favourite.

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