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Live from the Aviva Tratria Studio, it's the Grace Curly Show.

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Grace Curly.

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Here's the millennial with the mic, Grace Curley.

Welcome back everyone to the Grace Curley show.

Thank you so much for joining us today.

I wasn't lying when I said we had a great show planned and we have Brett Tolman,

former U.S. attorney with us now. He's also the executive director of Right on Crime.

Thank you, Brett, for coming on the show. The Grace Curly Show audience really loves hearing from you, and so I appreciate your time.

Yeah, Grace, thanks for having me on. I love being on your show.

Brett, I wanted to start with this information that we got about Robert Costello's testimony,

and I want to backtrack a little bit here on this hush money trial.

You've previously described Michael Cohen's credibility as being

on life support. What was your reaction to the news yesterday that while on the stand he admitted to stealing? Now, I've've seen I've seen different reports on this

30,000 60,000 but a lot of money from the Trump organization I would just love to

know what your initial reaction was to that news?

Well, I think the prosecution was surprised, actually.

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