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Wild Card with Rachel Martin

Brett Goldstein avoids emotions at all costs

Wild Card with Rachel Martin

NPR

Society & Culture

4.6992 Ratings

🗓️ 17 April 2025

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Don't be fooled by Brett Goldstein's grumpy exterior – he can't resist a big, open-hearted story. You see it in the TV shows he's acted in and helped create, "Ted Lasso" and "Shrinking." He's about to release a new HBO standup special called "The Second Best Night of Your Life." He spoke with Rachel about what Pixar knows about the afterlife and about finding ways to love annoying people.

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0:00.0

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0:11.9

More information is at waltonfamilyfoundation.org.

0:16.1

Hey, it's Rachel. Just want to give you a heads up our guest this week.

0:19.5

Likes to curse, just a little bit. Okay, a lot of bit, a lot. But I think you can handle it. Take a listen. What does age teach you about love? I think if you look hard enough for anyone, you can love them. You know, if you're like, strapped with someone, you're like, oh, fucking hell, this person's so boring, this person's so shit.

0:39.6

That's on you.

0:40.6

Like, I have to ask the right question.

0:42.9

And I'm sure there is a key to this person.

0:45.4

I'm Rachel Martin, and this is Wildcard.

0:48.1

The game where cards control the conversation.

0:52.8

Each week, my guest answers questions about their life. Questions pulled from a deck of cards.

0:58.7

They're allowed to skip one question and to flip one question back on me. My guest this week is Brett Goldstein.

1:05.4

My one sort of rule of writing is you have to love all your characters. You have to, even you're writing the worst people in the world.

1:13.1

You, the writer, have to write them with love.

1:15.8

Brett Goldstein may have become a global sensation for playing a deeply cynical

1:20.6

soccer player in Ted Lassau.

1:22.2

But at his core, Brett's a guy who loves a big, open-hearted story, one that isn't embarrassed to show all its feelings,

1:29.7

and maybe offer up a lesson or two about how to be a good person, which is what Ted Lasso was all about,

1:35.1

and the hit show Shrinking, both of which have Goldstein's creative fingerprints all over them.

1:40.8

Also, any person who says, with zero irony, that the best day of his life was spent with

1:46.9

Muppets on the set of Sesame Street, well, that's a person who loves humanity. As if creating massively

1:52.7

popular TV shows wasn't enough and hosting his own podcast, Brett Goldstein is out with a new

1:58.2

stand-up comedy special on HBO called The Second Best Night of Your Life. Brett Goldstein, welcome to Wildcard. That was a heck of an intro. Thank you very much. Nice to see you. It's nice to see you too. Thank you for doing this. It's going to be fun. Let's do it. All right. Here are the first three cards. Yeah. One, two, or three?

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