If you've been following

If you've been following any of the stories over the past several years about the movement of

hundreds of thousands, millions of people illegally into the United States, you may have come across the phrase

Darien Gap.

And it's never really explained what it is.

It's a physical place.

It's between Panama and Colombia.

And it is a gap in the Pan American highway.

In other words, if you want to get from South America to North America overland, you have to go through the

Darien Gap, but it's very difficult.

And yet, last year, at least 520,000 migrants crossed it to come here. How did that happen? What is it? What is going

on in the Darien gap? It's the key in some ways to the story, this immigration story.

Well, almost no one has taken the time to go to the Darien gap and find out what's happening there.

Leave it to a world-around biologists to do that, not a journalist, a biologist.

That would be Dr. Brett Weinstein,

who is the host along with his wife Heather

of the Dark Horse Podcast.

And he was just there last week

because he wanted to see it for himself.

We're honored to have him join us now to tell us what he found.

Dr Wenson, thank you so much.

Very good to be back with you Tucker.

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