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Did you ever think you would make it?

I feel I'm supposed I could take sweet the story.

I know this life meant for me.

Yeah, yeah, why would you bet on Goliath when we got bet David?

Valuetainment, giving values contagious.

This world of entrepreneurs, we can't no value to hate us.

I ain't run, homie, look what I become.

I'm the one. So we got a special podcast here for you today with an evolutionary biology professor of

evolutionary biology we can even say former Professor of Evolutionary Biology,

has got a podcast called Dark Horse Podcast.

Joe and I were talking because of a clip you guys did on a podcast together and I put it on Twitter and it got a lot of feedback.

And I said, man, I love that clip between the two of you guys.

He said, you should have him on.

I said, send me his number and then

Rob's like he's scheduled to come on I said you got to be kidding me how weird is this right but it's great to have you on the

podcast. Thanks for having me I'm glad to be here. Yes you, you're making a lot of friends the last two years.

You're making a lot of new allies.

You're pissing off, some would say the institution,

some of the people that are telling people what to do without wanting to hear the other

side of the argument, but you are definitely making a lot of friends.

I am losing friends and making more and better friends.

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