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Joining me today is a biologist, a former professor at Evergreen State who is now a professor

in exile. Brett Wines-9, welcome back to the Rubin Report. Thanks for having me back on.

Professor in exile, my friend, that's what it says on your Twitter bio, which means it's your

most defining characteristic right now. That has become the tenor of my life in the world.

All right, so I went into the Rubin Report Archives. They're very much like the Jedi Archives.

I went into the Rubin Report Archives this morning that you were on this show originally

on May 30th, 2017, so that's about a year and a half ago. It was just as the Evergreen

Bruhaha was beginning. You still were employed at the time, which probably seems like a lifetime ago.

So I think first, maybe we should just play a little catch-up from then. Now just to be clear,

you have been on the show one since then. You were on with your brother, Eric, and we did a little

bit about Evergreen in your life. But I thought, first let's just do catch-up on what happened,

where you're at, where you're going, and then we're going to do sort of new territory, and we're

going to cover a lot of biology and all that. Great. So May 30th of 2017 would be exactly one

week into the riots, the protest at my classroom that became relatively famous happened on May 23rd.

So one week in, I was sitting in this chair, and that feels like a lifetime ago, doesn't it?

I mean, it feels like it for me, and I think less has happened to me, although it's been a pretty

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