Hey folks, welcome to the Dark Horse Podcast. I have with me Yuri Dagan who is in Moscow.

He is a tech entrepreneur and longevity researcher who has recently come to my attention as someone

who has done extensive work looking into the origins of the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic. And I was very

impressed when I read his paper on Medium. I talked about it previously on the podcast with Heather.

And so many of you have seen his work. What you may or may not know is that especially this week,

that work has shown up in a number of mainstream publications as a strong bit of research pointing

in the direction of at least not shutting down the laboratory origin hypothesis for the virus. So, Yuri, welcome to the podcast.

Thank you. Thanks for having me.

So, you and I have talked a number of times about what this virus looks like to us and why it is that we're having trouble

swallowing the official story that this virus clearly came from nature, perhaps through a wet market,

but that it has nothing to do with the two labs that study Bat-Born Corona viruses in Wuhan, China.

So, what I want to do is bring the fans of this podcast along a bit so that they can get the view

from somebody who really does understand the biotech aspect of coronavirus research,

and they can make a judgment for themselves based on real information rather than just

dueling personalities making claims.

So, I hope I can fill those shoes, but thanks for the credit of knowledge.

Well, I know you could give me shoes.

I think you don't fully believe that you are at an epicenter of history,

but obviously the pandemic is a major historical event.

In some ways, it is a singular historical event.

And your work, which is not in the laboratory with coronavirus,

but your work revealing the patterns in that body of literature and what they suggest about

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