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Call Me Back - with Dan Senor

Bret Stephens teaches college grads to argue!

Call Me Back - with Dan Senor

Ark Media

Society, October 7, Hamas, War, Foreign Policy, Geopolitics, Israel, News Commentary, News, Politics, Elections, Palestine, Dan Senor, Government

4.82.3K Ratings

🗓️ 5 June 2023

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Bret Stephens, Pulitzer Prize winning columnist for The New York Times, returns for a conversation immediately following his address at the University of Chicago’s Class Day, where there was an organized — and ultimately unsuccessful — effort against his speech. We discuss his address, the effort against him and lessons learned. Bret also recently returned from a mission to rescue 111 Ethiopian Jews, part of a multi-decade effort to bring thousands of Ethiopian Jews to Israel to become Israeli citizens, the history of which he unpacks at the end of our conversation. Bret came to The New York Times after a long career with The Wall Street Journal, where he was most recently deputy editorial page editor and, for 11 years, a foreign affairs columnist. Before that, he was editor-in-chief of The Jerusalem Post. And prior to working in Israel, he was based in Brussels for The Wall Street Journal. Today, Bret is also the editor-in-chief of Sapir Journal. Bret was raised in Mexico City, earned his BA at the University of Chicago and his Masters at the London School of Economics. Items discussed in this episode: Sapir Journal — https://sapirjournal.org/ “The Herd of Independent Minds: Has the Avant-Garde Its Own Mass Culture” — https://www.commentary.org/articles/harold-rosenberg-2/the-herd-of-independent-mindshas-the-avant-garde-its-own-mass-culture/ Bret Stephens — “Go Forth and Argue” — https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/02/opinion/free-speech-campus.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare Bret Stephens — “Israel’s Unfinished Exodus Story” — https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/26/opinion/ethiopian-jews-israel.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare “Sideways” — https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0375063/ “The Lives of Others” — https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0405094/

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It's moderate Democrats who find themselves in the very institutions where these things have taken grip.

0:07.0

A lot of my conservative friends are working at hedge funds or their own businesses,

0:12.0

and they kind of look at it like as like some form of

0:14.6

insanity that's taking place outside of their business, outside of their community.

0:20.0

They're somewhat insulated from it, but it's moderate Democrats who grew up with the usual

0:25.0

set of liberal assumptions in publishing academia the media all of those

0:32.3

institutions which have usually attracted a kind of a left-of-center employee

0:38.4

base that have really headed up to their necks because they say, hey, I'm a liberal. I've never voted for a

0:44.5

Republican. I believe in marriage equality. I believe in rights. And now all of a

0:49.2

sudden I'm unemployable on account of my race or I can't speak my mind because there isn't

0:57.4

really a free speech culture or any form of dissent from a prevailing

1:02.4

orthodoxy is likely to cost me, if not my job at least a promotion.

1:06.6

And there's where the rebellion, I think, is really brewing. Welcome to Call Me Back. Before we get into the introduction of our guest today, Brett

1:25.9

Stevens, I just have one housekeeping note. Our conversation with Tyler Cowan

1:31.5

in our last episode sparked quite a response. Some people loved

1:36.9

what he had to say, some people hated what he had to say, some people

1:40.5

although very few were in the middle but it was basically divided between techno-optimists and techno-peasimists.

1:47.1

And so for our next episode, we are going to have Dr. Christine Rosen on, who's a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute

1:55.1

and a columnist for Commentary magazine and is a regular on the critically acclaimed commentary magazine

2:02.4

podcast. And I would say she follows more

2:04.8

but not entirely but more in the techno pessimist camp I don't want to speak for

2:08.6

her but in that commentary podcast episode that was released the day our Tyler Cowan episode was released.

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