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Intelligence Squared

Bret Easton Ellis on Teenage Nihilism and Nostalgia

Intelligence Squared

Intelligence Squared

Arts, News, Society & Culture, News Commentary

4.21.1K Ratings

🗓️ 10 February 2023

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Los Angeles, 1981. A group of beautiful, rich, high school students are playing adult in their absentee parents' empty mansions, fueled by lust and prescription drugs, and filled with fear and disaffection. This is the world of The Shards, Bret Easton Ellis’ first novel in 13 years, part auto-fiction, part horror. The provocative and polarising author joins Alex Preston, award-winning author and journalist, to speak about the emptiness of adolescence, the lawlessness of the 80s, and how it feels to look back at it all aged 56 in 2023. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, it's Kamala Ahmed here, and I'm here to tell you about energised, the brand

0:08.6

new podcast Intelligent Squared is launching in partnership with E. Bedrola.

0:14.3

The climate crisis is the most pressing issue of our time.

0:18.7

Temperatures are set to rise more than 1.5 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels in

0:24.4

the next two decades, and increase that will cause irreversible damage to our planet.

0:29.5

But is there still hope?

0:33.1

If humans are to blame for climate change, then we must also provide the solutions.

0:38.3

And that's where energised comes in.

0:41.0

Join me as I bring together experts and policymakers to delve deep into the key issues at the heart

0:46.6

of the global drive towards net zero and the innovations that promise to accelerate the

0:51.4

energy transition and transform the way we live.

0:55.2

As such, energised wherever you get your podcasts.

1:05.0

Welcome to Intelligent Squared, I'm producer Catherine Hughes.

1:08.8

Today on the podcast, we're joined by one of the most polarising voices in contemporary

1:12.6

literature, bright eastern Ellis.

1:15.4

His lengthy career, including novels Less Than Zero and American Psycho, has weathered

1:20.3

the storm of controversy, time and time again.

1:23.7

And he has now cemented his place as cultural icon and provocateur.

1:28.1

To speak about his latest novel, The Shards, Part Auto Fiction, Part Horror, he's joined

1:33.4

by a wood-winning author and journalist, Alex Preston.

1:37.2

Let's go to Alex now to hear more.

1:40.5

I'm joined today by bread eastern Ellis, a writer whose fame and sometimes infamy has

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