Bret and Heather 34th DarkHorse Podcast Livestream: Portland & Covid: What the Hell?
DarkHorse Podcast
Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying
4.6 • 5.6K Ratings
🗓️ 28 July 2020
⏱️ 71 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hey folks, welcome to the 34th live stream of the Dark Horse podcast here from Portland, Oregon, |
| 0:15.6 | the center of all the confusion in the universe. It would seem. Wow. I'm right here with Dr. Heather |
| 0:21.2 | Hying as always. And we are going to try to navigate the confusion and see if we can't rescue |
| 0:25.6 | you some sense from it. What do you say? And at the point that we run out of confusion in Portland, |
| 0:29.4 | we're going to talk about COVID. We are not going to run out of confusion. We may have to call |
| 0:33.6 | a halt to our discussion of the confusion in Portland in order to get to the confusion surrounding |
| 0:37.7 | COVID. Yeah. But let's just say there's plenty of confusion to go around. There sure is. Yeah. |
| 0:43.2 | All right. So Portland, you've heard lots of things about what's going on in Portland and you've |
| 0:46.8 | heard some some efforts by us to try to correct the distortion. But I wanted to start with a couple |
| 0:54.0 | of concepts. All right. The first one has to do with verificationism, which is something that you and |
| 0:59.0 | I have thought an awful lot about in a scientific context. And the reason it's relevant here is that |
| 1:06.0 | a verificationist approach to sense making in science is devastatingly broken because it is very |
| 1:12.8 | often that you can find evidence for a perspective in spite of the fact that the perspective is false. |
| 1:18.7 | Whereas if you seek to find evidence against a perspective and it is false, you will find |
| 1:23.2 | more of that and you will disconfirm it. And it is only when you find an explanation for something |
| 1:28.0 | so robust that you can't find disconfirming evidence that you really know you're onto something. |
| 1:32.6 | And for fans of the history of epistemology who are out there, we can attribute the origin of |
| 1:37.6 | this idea to Karl Popper. To Karl Popper exactly. So a poparian view is a falsificationist view and |
| 1:43.2 | all of those of us who pay attention to the the philosophy of science, which is a little bit of a |
| 1:47.8 | dry discipline, but a very important one. We know that verificationists are a thing to be feared. |
| 1:53.2 | And what I see taking place in the news cycle is verificationist myth making, which is resulting in |
| 2:01.7 | completely divergent and unreconcilable portrayals of events that are factual, which should be able to be |
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