Hey folks, welcome to the Dark Horse Podcast live stream our 31st.

I am here with Dr. Heather Hying.

Many, many things are afoot including on this channel.

As we've released a number of things in sequence, you may not get notifications of them all based on the vagaries of how YouTube functions.

So I will call your attention to them now.

The black intellectual round table has been tremendously successful.

People are really excited about it and has been covered by the spectator.

So check that out, well worth a look.

I have also just released an interview with Matt Taibi, which I thought was great.

He is a long been someone I have admired and it was an excellent conversation.

He endorsed Unity 2020, which I consider a very important bit of progress.

So anyway, check those videos out.

Oh, and the third one that we have recently released is an interview with the world's most interesting orthodontist.

And I know that doesn't sound like.

I thought you called him the world's most hated orthodontist.

He is absolutely.

He is a more interesting word than interesting.

Okay. He is the world's most hated orthodontist.

And the thing is the only people who hate orthodontists are people like me who have been damaged by orthodontists

and other orthodontists who don't want the truth out about that kind of damage.

So anyway, check out this podcast with Dr. Mike Mew.

And if you are puzzling over how an orthodontist could be interesting, you know,

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