Hi everyone. I'm Brinay Brown and this is unlocking S.

Whoa!

We!

Let me just tell you, I'm talking to Esther Perraillerell who is a psychotherapist a New York Times best-selling author and podcaster and I'm

officially changing her name into a verb because I

Literally get Esther Per parelled during this podcast in real time.

I mean I she blew my mind. I have always followed her work she is

completely dedicated to helping us navigate the complexities of modern relationships,

romantic relationships, family relationships, workplace relationships. She gets it. She gets what it means to be human. She makes things

accessible. I just feel like she's one of those people where everything she

says is like profoundly moving and I need to write it down.

In this episode, however, she blows my mind around some patterns that Steve and I have that, I don't know,

while aware of them, I wasn't sure exactly what was happening so what an incredible

episode I cannot wait to dive into this with you I can't wait for you to get to know Astaire better.

She's just amazing and we're going to talk a lot about paradox and straddling the tension

of what seems to be opposites but or not. We're going to talk about how two

competing ideas can both be true, which makes me crazy, but that's what it means

to be alive. Welcome to unlocking us. I'm glad y'all are here.

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