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Unlocking Us with Brené Brown

Brené on Shame and Accountability

Unlocking Us with Brené Brown

Vox Media Podcast Network

Society & Culture, Education, Relationships, Self-improvement

4.624.5K Ratings

🗓️ 1 July 2020

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

In today’s solo episode, I share my thoughts about why accountability is a prerequisite for change and why we need to get our heads and hearts around the difference between being held accountable for racism and feeling shame and being shamed. I share my personal stories of being held accountable and holding myself accountable, as well as my strategies for pulling my “thinking brain” back online when I’m experiencing the flight and fight energy fueled by shame. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:08.1

ass. It's just me today. I thought I would just talk to you about some of the thinking I've been doing,

1:19.0

some of the observations I've had over the last few weeks what's really on my mind and I want to focus

1:27.6

really on shame today and one thing that has struck me over the past few weeks as we've seen the country in the world

1:34.4

mobilize to take on COVID-19 and white supremacy to lethal pandemics is how we're talking about shame, how we're weaponizing it and why getting clear

1:46.0

on the differences between being held accountable for racism and feeling shame is not the same thing as being shamed.

2:01.2

And this distinction I think is critically important, especially for those of us who are white, we're trying to do anti-racism work. Some of us have been doing it for a while, some of us are brand

2:15.0

new to it.

2:16.4

We need to understand the difference between being held accountable for racism and experiencing

2:20.8

shame as a result of that accountability and how that's different than

2:25.4

actually being shamed for being a racist. These are different things. But I want to

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