Brené Brown

Wild Card with Rachel Martin

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Society & Culture

4.7 • 990 Ratings

🗓️ 2 October 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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As a researcher and professor, Brené Brown has always sought to understand and navigate the emotions that make us human – vulnerability, shame, courage. In her latest book, "Strong Ground," she's exploring how to redefine leadership in a rapidly changing world. She spoke with Rachel about being stubborn about her faith, embracing mystery, and how moments of vulnerability can unite us.

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0:40.7	Just a heads up, there's a bit of cursing in this episode.
0:46.3	What feels unreachable to you?
0:49.4	Oh, my faith. God. That's my favorite part.
0:53.5	Wait, that you never get there? Yeah. Well, that seems frustrating. No. That's my favorite part. Wait, that you never get there?
0:55.0	Yeah.
0:55.9	Well, that seems frustrating.
0:57.6	No, it's like pickleball.
1:02.0	I'm Rachel Martin, and this is Wildcard, the show where cards control the conversation.
1:08.1	Each week, my guest answers questions about their life.
1:11.3	Questions pulled from a deck of cards.
1:13.4	They're allowed to skip one question and to flip one question back on me.
1:17.2	My guest this week is Brunee Brown.
1:19.5	Like, haven't you ever wanted to solve a problem so bad?
1:22.5	And that process gave you so much that solving it actually came with kind of a ww, ww, wong.
1:29.4	I went back and watched the TED Talk that Bray Brown did in 2010, the one about vulnerability.
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