One of the things that I say that maybe pisses people off more than anything else I say, whether it's leaders, parents, is that we cannot give people what we don't have and we can't ask people to do what we're not doing. And that makes people crazy. And I get it as a parent, especially because, you know, when I tell parents, you can't raise a child with a greater sense of resilience than your own.

You can't raise a child with more self-compassion than what you have.

They get twitchy, they get crunchy and y'uh.

But when I tell people, I'm not sure that you can love a child more than you love yourself.

People get hostile.

So what if daring to be open and real unlock not just your greatest potential, but also

pretty much everything good in every relationship or experience you could ever have?

What if the thing that so many of us fear most that others will discover how flawed and human and real we are is actually the gateway to the life we so desperately want to live?

And what if choosing courage over comfort opened the doors to a world and a life you never imagined?

These are just some of the questions that I dive into with Brune Brown.

So Bray has spent the last two decades studying the transformational power of vulnerability.

Author of six number one New York Times bestsellers,

Bray's really inspiring research on courage, worthiness, and shame has enlightened millions worldwide.

And a research professor at University of Houston,

she's a leading voice on topics like empathy, resilience, and living a wholehearted life. Her

groundbreaking TED Talk on the power of vulnerability has now been viewed over 60 million times.

And I really love Brnard's ability to translate complicated academic concepts into

just accessible language and stories. And speaking of stories, she is a deeply compelling

storyteller who will draw you in, then open your heart, in no small part, by sharing hers with

you first. In fact, the conversation that unfolded between us moved both of us

to tears at various point. Bray was so beautifully real, raw, candid, and wise. As a best of episode,

every part of this conversation is as relevant today, maybe more so given the current climate than it was

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