I'm Oprah Winfrey. Welcome to Super Soul Conversations, the podcast. I believe that one of

the most valuable gifts you can give yourself is time, taking time to be more fully present.

Your journey to become more inspired and connected to the deeper world around us starts right

now.

Last time Brunei was here, we had an eye-opening a Hothield conversation about her best-selling

book Daring Greatly.

We have to dare greatly and do another show. That's it. I'll be right here.

I saw all of your tweets in Facebook postings and I know that you two learned so much about

a fulfilling life that takes courage, risk taking, and Brunei says a willingness to be vulnerable.

You can't get to courage without walking through vulnerability. Period.

Back in 2010, Brunei did just that. She used a personal spiritual awakening as the inspiration

for a lecture that went viral with more than eight and a half million views. In her book

Daring Greatly, Brunei Brown has a top 10 to do list of what it takes to be a whole-hearted

person, a person who believes in their worthiness, and is resilient to shame.

Last time Brunei and I talked, we got through five of the guideposts, cultivating authenticity,

letting go of what people think, cultivating self-compassion, letting go of perfectionism,

cultivating a resilient spirit, letting go of numbing and powerlessness, cultivating gratitude,

and joy, letting go of scarcity and fear of the dark.

Cultivating intuition and trusting faith, letting go of the need to be certain.

This is why I wanted to do a second show. First of all, couldn't get it all in in the

first show, but we have to talk about shame and how it rules our existence, and we have

to talk about shame and fear and how the two of those work together. I want to finish

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