Brené and Adam on What They Will Never Agree On | from The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
ReThinking
TED
4.7 • 626 Ratings
🗓️ 24 March 2026
⏱️ 59 minutes
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Summary
Welcome to The Curiosity Shop! In the inaugural episode, Brené and Adam discuss how a public disagreement about authenticity almost ended their relationship before it began. For the first time, they discuss where they went wrong, why they changed their minds about each other, and what they learned about repair and trust. They also explore what healthy authenticity looks like, and dive into the many things they may still never fully see eye to eye on – from email vs. texting to remote work to faith.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey everyone. I'm excited to share something new with you. Every time Bray Brown and I do a podcast together, listeners ask for more. So we just launched a podcast together. It's called The Curiosity Shop. And every Thursday, the two of us will combine our right brain and left brain sensibilities to explore timeless questions, riff on and debate cultural moments, and |
| 0:22.0 | unpack evidence on getting wiser, stronger, kinder, and closer. Today I'm bringing you |
| 0:27.5 | one of our first episodes. It's about the public fight we had about authenticity that nearly |
| 0:32.3 | ended our relationship before it began. We discussed where we went wrong, how and why we |
| 0:37.1 | reconciled, and what it taught us about trust and repair. |
| 0:41.3 | We also finally align on what healthy authenticity looks like. For more, you can find The Curiosity Shop on YouTube or your favorite podcast platform. |
| 0:50.5 | Hope you enjoy it as much as we did. |
| 0:54.8 | Welcome to The Curiosity Shop. |
| 0:56.5 | A show from the Fox Media Podcast Network. |
| 1:03.8 | Hi, everybody. |
| 1:04.7 | Welcome to the Curiosity Shop. |
| 1:06.5 | I'm Bray Brown. |
| 1:07.7 | And I'm Adam Grant. |
| 1:08.7 | We're glad you're here. |
| 1:10.9 | We're here. I'm glad we're here. I'm glad we're here. Mine are a miracle. I'm Brunay Brown. And I'm Adam Grant. We're glad you're here. We're here. |
| 1:11.8 | I'm glad we're here. |
| 1:13.0 | I'm glad we're here. |
| 1:13.9 | Minor miracle. |
| 1:14.5 | I'm shocked. |
| 1:15.3 | We're here. |
| 1:15.9 | Really surprising. |
| 1:16.7 | We did it. |
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