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You can read all Phil's post-match reaction stuff to the nil-l draw against Brentford on the Athletic.

Sign up at theathletic.com forward slash leadspod new year's offer on there morning to you Phil you're right then what did you make of that then um an exciting nil niller is that the best

way to sell it good morning yes it developed into that the scoreline at the end of the game

I think was rather what I was expecting at half time.

The way the first half had played out, even though we said beforehand there'll be goals in this game,

because there always seemed to be goals between Leeds and Brentford.

And we said there'd be plenty of niggle and there was a bet, but not so much.

And after the game, you had Thomas Frank actually being pretty complimentary about Leeds saying they were difficult to play against.

I sort of noted that because I've heard that from a few coaches, a few managers over the months when Marsh has been in charge.

And I think you've got this sort of juxtaposition with this Leeds team that they can look soft and they can look vulnerable

in certain situations and they do can see goals.

But actually, when you hear other managers and coaches talking about them, they don't

describe them as a side who they find particularly easy to play against or particularly easy

to beat.

And Frank's attitude yesterday was that he didn't feel Brentford had played well

or had been in the game enough.

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