All right, guys. Happy Friday. You know how this works. We are covering convicting a murderer every episode last night.

We aired episode seven. And of course, I had to get Matt Walsh on because when it comes to Brennan Dassy,

I'm not sure if I am just heartless, but I do know that if I am heartless, a person that will be more heartless is Matt Walsh.

So Matt Walsh, welcome to the show.

Can I meet for that?

I can count you for one thing.

So first, I just want to talk about the overarching opinion about Brennan Dassy because I am startled

at the amount of sympathy that he has been able to garner over the years,

even from people who fully accept that Steven Avery is a monster,

fully accept that Brennan Dassy was involved in this horrific crime.

They still go, okay, but he was 16 at the time and it's just sad to think

that he's going to spend the rest of his life in prison.

Yeah, I mean, I think there's been kind of a pivot because at first when people,

if people believe that he's innocent, I think that's naive and ridiculous.

But if you believe he's innocent and you think he should be out of prison, well, that at least that tracks.

But when you present a lot of the facts and you present in convicting a murderer,

that's when, yeah, you get to the pivot where they say, well, even if he is guilty,

he shouldn't be in prison because he was 16 and all this kind of stuff.

And that I find pretty disturbing, considering if you're willing to admit that he's guilty,

it's obviously guilty as hell.

If you are capable of doing something like that to a person at any age,

it already means that you're not fit to be free and to be out in society.

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