Welcome to Rolling Stones Nashville Now.

I'm your host, Joseph Hudak, senior music editor of Rolling Stone.

Country is here.

Nashville is now.

I want to welcome you to the Nashville Now cabin and welcome our guest, Breeland.

You're in for it today.

This is probably one of the most intelligent, honest conversations we have had on the podcast yet.

No shade to anyone else.

I'm just saying that Breeland really raised the bar with this.

And we'll talk about that in a second.

But first, we recently saw Stephen Wilson Jr. headline two nights at the Ryman Auditorium

downtown here in Nashville. You know, we've talked about Stephen a lot on this show, and we're

very excited to hopefully get him in here next year but man y'all have to go

see him live i'm just going to talk about this this particular two shows for a second because it bears

it bears spreading the word uh we went both nights it was that good he is a former boxer as a lot of you know as part of his He is a former boxer. As a lot of you know, as part of his backstory, is a former

microbiologist, and he had a really big reveal for this stage setup. The show lights darkened,

curtain is down, and they slid the curtain back, and Stephen has an entire boxing ring set up on stage,

an elevated boxing ring. He didn't just put ropes around the gear and ropes around the

equipment. He actually elevated it a few feet off the floor. And so his stage manager,

his tour manager, I should say, was dressed as a referee,

as a ringman, and he would pull open the ropes when Stephen and his amazing band entered the

ring to perform. It was really something to witness. And the way he moves on stage, the footwork

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