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Well, if I'm honest, I always say the hills and mountains represent life. So we have these ups and we have these downs. You're not kind of guaranteed this view at the end of it, but it's that digging in.

I prefer hard walks. I want it to be wet. I want it to be

cold because that's where you have to dig deep. And for my young people especially, it's a challenge

that they normally would choose not to put themselves in for. So if they want that success,

I'm not carrying them up.

They've got to do it themselves.

So long, hard walks, it's about great.

I'm in Worcestershire today, walking with Steve Boycott, whose job now, who you have found

your calling in life because your job is to walk with young people or to

use walking as a way of helping them through challenges that they might have. Yeah, it's part of a

bigger programme. So I'm a big believer in being outdoors. So a lot of the activities that I

take on with the students are predominantly outdoors. and walking makes up a chunk of that.

And the hill that we are going to climb today is your local hill?

Yeah, I live on the base of it, on the north side, so I'm constantly upbreeding hill,

especially in more the summer months, I suppose, just because of access.

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