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This is Sex, Lies, and Spray Tans with me, Cheryl Burke, and IHeart Radio podcast.

Welcome back to your favorite podcast and series,

Sex, Slies, and Spray Tans, Headlines, and Hot Topics episode. Today, we have the executive

editor of TV and events for People magazine. My guest co-host joined people in April 2018 after

two years as senior editor at Entertainment Weekly. Prior to that,

she held editorial positions at Yahoo Entertainment, MTV, E, and the New York Daily News.

You may know her from frequently appearing as an entertainment expert on programs such as Good Morning America,

Access Hollywood, and numerous podcasts. We are so excited to

have her back with us today. Everyone, please give a warm welcome to Brianne Heldman to the podcast.

It's been since my 40th birthday celebration talk. Yes. I feel like it's going to be fun

again today, but what's going to do? I really think it is. Nothing. It's the same old. Same old chaos. I mean, this season has been a blast. Last this week's episode, though, not so much. I have a lot of thoughts. I know you have a lot of thoughts. My senses that were pretty

aligned on some of those thoughts. Us and millions. Yes. What are your thoughts? What was up with that

judging? Literally everyone gets an eight. Like, doesn't matter what you do, you just get an eight.

No, it's just, listen, I know a lot of people are like, well, we heard, like, so many conspiracy theories, right?

Like, Disney 8 is like the lowest score you can have that's a contract. That's not true. I'm pretty sure Cody and I got like sixes during our goofy jive when we had just gotten back from having COVID. So like I don't really think that is true. Now, mind you, I don't know. Because I was now,

I've never been sat there at the judge's table. So I don't, I don't think so. It just,

this is the thing. If you know, let's say, hey, let's just say in a hypothetical like type of

situation here where let's say it is scripted and they say you have to give eights to

everyone, then match your comments because you control what comes out of your mouth, right?

Yeah, exactly.

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