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Lately, I've been so stuck in my head that I forget just about everything my therapist said.

Maybe I'm self-helpless.

Hey, everyone, welcome to self-helpless.

I'm Delaney Fisher.

And today I'm chatting with M. Schultz, who is the co-host of the podcast, and that's why we drink.

And also happens to be one of my best

buds. And today we are talking about breakups, basically the situations that have stuck out the

most for us from our past, some really painful experiences, serious heartbreak, how we healed

from them, what actually helped, even the weird stuff, maybe things

that probably wouldn't be recommended from your therapist, but they helped us anyway.

And what we wish we would have known back then during those relationships, during the

breakups, like how to avoid tolerating a pretty shitty behavior and also how to not dish

out shitty behavior because we talk about a lot of things that we are not proud of in the way

that we handled things. We're hoping that by sharing the ways that we've messed up and the things

that we tolerated as far as mistreatment from other people,

this will help somebody out there who's going through a breakup or maybe even considering a breakup.

Just to remind you, obviously, that you're not alone and hopefully help you avoid some of these

missteps and not take anything that might be going on in your relationship

or with your breakup personally because you just never know what kind of stuff that person is

going to uncover about themselves that they might not know yet and vice versa what you're

going to find out about yourself that's going to help you make sense of maybe why

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