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All right. So you've got kids. You've got kids on screens.

Too many.

Dr. Ducleff. I was reading about her in the New York Post.

In light of this landmark case, we talked about it here on the show, where kids in social media and streaming app, it's kind of like the social media companies are having their nicotine moment

because they specifically designed social media to be addictive. You've seen it with your kids.

Oh, absolutely. I mean, I've seen it. It's addictive to seven-year-olds as much as it is to 16-year-olds.

So Dr. Ducleff thought her daughter Rosie loved just YouTube and Netflix. The seven-year-old, though, would beg for screen time. Right. I want this more. I want this more. She wrote a book called Dopamine Kids. And joining us right now is the doctor herself. And thank you for joining us because it is dopamine, isn't it? Oh, yeah, for sure. It is dopamine,

but it's not pleasure. You got to know that. What is it? So dopamine does not give us pleasure,

does not give us happiness. Dopamine makes us want. It makes us desire. It's the do it again

button in our brain. Just do it again, do it again. But dopamine can pull us to things

in our kids, to things that actually make us feel worse, that hurt us. And so, you know, limiting

these things in our kids' lives doesn't mean taking away pleasure from them. It means adding

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