All right, hey, everybody. It's Tim Miller from the bulwark here with my colleague Bill Crystal.

We have a special Tuesday night election edition.

And Bill Crystal's home Commonwealth of Virginia, we can make an official call here that the yes vote,

which means that the side that favored the referendum that redistricted the state of Virginia and

redrew the state in such a way that it might end up being a 10 to 1 Democratic majority.

That referendum passed this evening.

There were some concerns in the pro-democracy circles about this,

but the no campaign was very aggressive and well-funded. And so a lot to unpack there, Bill. You're on the ground of Virginia. You made the case passionately on a couple of shows for why, even as a non-gerrymandering guy, you think in this case it was worthwhile to support the referendum. What's your big takeaway? Yeah, didn't expect to be having an election night discussion on Tuesday, April 21st,

but, you know, Trump's America, strange things happen, right? And the Virginia Constitution

required that they go to the voters to change the previous, I think, constitutional amendment,

which has set up a non-jerrymandering, non-partisan districting, which was actually worked well and produced a six to five

break and contiguous districts and all that. But then Texas redistricted, Trump's pushing it in other states,

and Spanberger, the new Democratic governor thought, you know, Virginia should play its part in checking

this Republican attempt to keep control of the House by one-sided gerrymandering. So the Democrats

gerrymandered. It looks like it's going to pass by about four points. So a little close for

comfort. Spamberger won by 15, obviously a year ago, well, not a year ago, what, five, six months ago.

So some Spamberger voters, Northern Virginia here has some good government, Democratic types,

who believe that you shouldn't do gerrymandering, and I think stuck to their belief over their

partisan interest, and I would say also over the interest in stopping Trump.

But, you know, that's another issue.

That may be true, but in Arlington, the yes vote is currently plus 60. So they did have Assad-like numbers in Arlington. They do. No, no. The northern Virginia saved. I mean, so what happened basically is, first of all, there's a couple things. Surprisingly big turnout. It looks like a little lower $3 million, or I think it was $3.4 in the gubernatorial rate. So we're having the same level of turnout as the high turnout, almost.

It's a high turnout we had a few months ago with the wave election in November of 2025.

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