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Reflector

Breaking USAID

Reflector

Longview

Society & Culture, Documentary

4.6577 Ratings

🗓️ 15 February 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Should the U.S. stop giving foreign aid? This is a question many have been asking long before Elon Musk and Donald Trump launched DOGE (Department of Government Efficiency) and began dismantling USAID and its work around the globe. Critics of foreign aid, like Bill Easterly, author of The White Man’s Burden, and Dambisa Moyo, author of Dead Aid, argue that foreign aid often does more harm than good. They contend that the U.S. and other nations should radically rethink their approach. But this winter, Donald Trump did something no one expected: he halted nearly all foreign aid and operations worldwide.  Today, we’re joined by long-time international correspondent and host of NPR’s Rough Translation, Gregory Warner, for a deep dive into why USAID was founded in the first place, how it expanded into the massive program it is today, the consequences of freezing its operations, and an examination of the claims that USAID is part of a U.S. deep-state operation. For the listener who’d like to hear more from Warner, he publishes a Substack newsletter called Rough Transition. And if you reach out to him mentioning you're coming from Reflector, he’s happy to offer a complimentary six-month subscription. Thank you to our sponsor Ground News. You can visit them here to learn more: GROUND.NEWS Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey, Andy, I'm saying the word reflector over and over again.

0:06.1

Reflector. Reflector. Reflector. Reflector.

0:10.9

Reflector.

0:12.4

You know, when you say a word so many times that you have no idea what it means anymore?

0:17.5

Reflector. Reflector.

0:21.2

Reflector. Reflector. Reflector.

0:21.8

Reflector.

0:24.1

Okay.

0:26.4

Okay.

0:27.2

Getting all these texts from Ukraine.

0:29.5

You're getting texts from Ukraine right now?

0:31.6

Oh, yeah.

0:32.5

I just reached out to a couple of folks and asked them if USAID is affecting them, and they're sending me all these stories.

0:40.5

There's like all these lists now.

0:43.3

The thing about it is that people didn't realize how, that's the funny thing of it.

0:46.5

USAID is supposed to be about sending a message that America is helping, but a lot of people didn't realize that USAID was funding.

0:52.8

Hello, you're listening to Reflector. I'm Andy Mills, and today we are joined by one of my favorite international reporters and my friend, Gregory Warner. All right, so let's just get started. I'm going to say, Gregory Warner, thank you very much for being here. Andy Mills, really nice to be here. Thank you. And I think I'm happy to follow your lead on this. Where do you think we should begin?

1:12.4

So I think it may be helpful just to go back for a second to December 2024 just before all

1:20.2

this went down.

1:21.6

December as in like last December.

1:23.1

Yeah, like after Trump's election before his inauguration.

1:26.0

Thank you.

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