We've got to address the suburban women problem because it's real.

Suburban women helped determine the 2020 election, but there's more to us in the headlines

would have you believe.

The suburbs aren't a homogeneity of white people in perfect houses.

Real change is happening in the suburbs, and we have things to say.

When women share their personal stories, walls come down and barriers. real changes happening in the suburbs, and we have things to say.

When women share their personal stories, walls come down and barriers are broken.

Welcome to the suburban women problem, a podcast from red, wine, and blue.

Hi, everyone. Thanks for listening. I'm Jasmine Clark. I'm Amanda Weinstein. And I'm Katie Paris, filling in for Rachel Thinman, who is out on a very exciting book tour with her husband, Alex. Today we'll

be speaking with Meredith Lawson Row, a suburban mom from Ohio who won her local race for city council

alongside a group of other amazing women who call themselves

the women of Reynoldsburg. And after that, I sit down with Christina Reynolds, the VP of Communications

with Emily's List, an author of a brand new book, Run to Win, Lessons in Leadership for Women

Changing the world.

Emily's List supports women running for office and that means challenging sexism, not only

from men, but also in ourselves, which could be hard to talk about.

You know, we've internalized a lot of lessons about what women can or can't do and what we should

or shouldn't be. So Katie, you've been working in politics for a while now. How did it feel

to be one of the only women in the room? This is honestly kind of, I'm feeling kind of vulnerable. This is sort of embarrassing

to admit. Um, thankfully I'm in a very different place today. But early on in my career, there's

just, I looked at politics just like any other industry, right? It's dominated by men. But rather

than seeing that as a problem, I saw it as like,

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