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Catherine Rampel, author of The Receipts Newsletter at the bulwark.com to talk about the latest

economic news and surprise, it's not great. Not great. We got an inflation report this morning,

Catherine. I'll just read off the headline. Consumer prices rose 3.3% in March as energy prices spiked due to Iran. Conflict, 3.3% sounds like a lot. Yes? It's not a little.

Line go up.

Yes, line go up. Exactly. That red line at the end. To be clear, the thing that the Federal

Reserve pays more attention to is a version of the blue line, which is when you strip out food

and energy prices, not because the American

public does not care about those things. Obviously, people very much care about what they're

paying at the pump, for example, but because they tend to be kind of volatile. So the thing that

the Fed pays attention to is slightly better than the thing that the general voter pays attention to,

but at some point they may converge in being both bad because, yeah, because it like for now,

they can strip out energy prices or energy price growth, but energy is an input into almost everything

else, right?

Like the baseball glove you get or whatever, like any goods you get,

get shipped around the world using energy.

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