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And I would start to kind of feel like I was going to pass out because my body was just responding to fear in that way.

Yeah. So then it scared me because you know I'm driving or I'm in other situations where I don't want to pass out.

And so like that was that's kind of how it would always feel for me and then my like reaction was always to just like run right like flee how do I make this feeling

Stop right and it was to like escape from that

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Hey guys, welcome to the real life podcast. This is Alyssa and today I have a really

special guest. My best friend of eight years, known her for years and years since fourth grade,

is visiting me and I just asked her to come on the podcast because she

has such a good story about anxiety and her healing and journey with it so I

asked if she would come on and share about it. But real quick, Shannon is one of my best

best friends. You know those best friends where they probably only come along a

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