Breaking the Silence on Gaza and Ukraine: Military Regrets & Historical Atrocities | Ep. 260 | Pt. 2

Mike Drop

Mike Ritland

Society & Culture, Personal Journals, Documentary, Politics, News

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🗓️ 9 October 2025

⏱️ 108 minutes

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Summary

Dive into Part 2 of Episode 260 of the Mike Drop podcast, Ritland sits down with guest Alan Shebaro, a U.S. Army veteran and outspoken advocate for Palestinian rights, who shares his personal journey from military service in Iraq and Afghanistan to questioning U.S. foreign policy. Listeners will find thought-provoking discussions on the aftermath of 9/11, the ethics of American interventions abroad, critiques of historical U.S. involvement in the Middle East (including propping up regimes and overthrowing leaders), and a deep exploration of current global conflicts like Russia-Ukraine and Israel-Gaza. Shebaro draws from his firsthand experiences in the West Bank, offering controversial insights into geopolitics, isolationism, and calls for policy changes, all while reflecting on the human cost of war. This episode challenges conventional narratives and encourages critical thinking on international relations—perfect for those interested in military history, foreign policy debates, and veteran perspectives. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	So 9-11, I got questions. I got so many questions about 9-11.
0:05.0	But if we just take from the information that we knew, we knew that 15 Saudis flew the plane and,
0:15.0	sorry, there's 15 Saudis, there's 18 total, and I think the other ones were Pakistani or something else but I distinctly
0:23.3	remember there's 15 Saudis you know that were supposed to be the ones that
0:28.7	threw you know that they you know the planes in and so we invade Iraq.
0:38.3	So what?
0:41.3	And then he's supposed to be hiding in Afghanistan.
0:44.3	But again, if there's a, you know, and if you look at it logically, if we have, you know, a
0:52.3	terror cell that bombs Mexico City and they're hiding in the U.S.
0:56.9	Does that give Mexico a right to come and attack Canada?
1:00.8	You know what I mean?
1:02.2	It just, it didn't, none of it made sense when you started kind of getting the weeds
1:06.7	and questioning things.
1:08.6	And I think that a lot of us, I know at least for me, I wanted to, that wasn't my focus.
1:15.6	My focus was we've been attacked and I can't believe to say this on here.
1:23.6	I trust my government that will, you know, do the right thing.
1:28.3	You know, that has changed dramatically.
1:31.3	And I think that was the hardest thing to try to accept.
1:38.3	And I think that was one of the hardest things for me to try to, know accept about myself was um the situation was like
1:49.3	uh and just related back to being bullied as a kid you know imagine like you have this superpower
1:54.7	and you know you're you got the whole right and you'd see some guy and, you know, beating someone else up and you go over there and you just
2:03.6	knock him to fuck out, right?
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