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and I'm not to say that about Elon Musk and the America party.

There are about 20 people in the country who have tried to do at a serious level third party efforts,

who've tried to put together legitimate third party bids for various enterprises and offices,

whether it's new parties or presidential candidates. I'm one of them.

Reid Galen did more work with almost any human being I've ever met on trying to put third

party stuff together.

And it just is a really high hill.

We didn't have the money that Elon Musk has.

So I want to talk a little bit about why the America Party is trouble for the Republicans, possibly a little bit of trouble for the Democrats.

Don't keep your eye on that?

And finally, there will be a bipartisan immune response to this that we shouldn't have, but we will.

Okay, first off, starting a new party is really hard. It's so difficult. It's such a

unbelievable multivariate problem space. You got to go out to 50 states and territories,

more territories. You've got to the 50 states first. Let's keep it there. Some states, it's easy.

Some states, you tell the secretary of state, we formed the new party and they go, okay. Other states, you have to get signatures. And most Republican states have made that process incredibly baroque and involved and expensive and difficult. In some states, you have to go and actually start, it's sort of a todological problem. You have to win elections to be a party and you have to win more elections to keep being a party. The duopoly of the Republican

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