Welcome to the conversations that matter podcast. My name is John Harris. We are going to jump into hopefully what will be an encouraging episode for you.

I have promised that I would talk about the trip I just took give you some updates and share some

observations what's happening on the ground across this country with churches the

deck is being reshuffled the dust hasn't settled, what's going on, big picture in American quote

unquote evangelicalism, but also from the ground up, what's happening?

And I have some insights I think on this and I'm going to share with you also a passage

from Joshua 23 and 24 that really just turn the light on for me. I was just

reading it in my devotional time the other day and I just thought man this

explained so much related to idolatry level of sin breaking God's covenant and I'll

give you some thoughts on that and how it relates to the rest of what I just

talked about I'll share with you some

resources along the way that people have given me at some of these places that

I've spoken encouraging things hopefully for you and and we'll just kind of see

where it goes but I'm not going to go into the new cycles

I'm just gonna I'm gonna keep it to observations general observations that I'm making

and maybe maybe I'll even make some predictions I don't. I'm not sure where all of this is headed.

But I want to share with you a social media post

that I made on Sunday to get this started

because someone asked a question about it

and I thought it was a good question.

This is what I said. The Evangelical

industrial complex is dying and vultures are taking scraps from its ruins.

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