Breaking the Chains
Wonder Cabinet
Wonder Cabinet Productions
4.8 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 20 June 2020
⏱️ 53 minutes
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Summary
America is in the midst of what seems like a race revolution. Street protests are continuing across the country. Police departments are enacting changes. Confederate statues are coming down. What's next in the fight for Black equality? We take a hard look at how racism infects not only the police, but the entire criminal justice system.
Original Air Date: June 20, 2020
Guests:
Michelle Alexander — Bryan Stevenson — Ruth Wilson Gilmore — Malcolm Gladwell — Khalil Gibran Muhammad — Connie Rice — Colson Whitehead
Interviews In This Hour:
'The New Jim Crow'? Our Criminal Justice System — The Violence of a Violent Justice System — Can Capitalism Reduce Mass Incarceration? — Fearing the Black Man — Malcolm Gladwell on 'When Police Kill' — 'Why Do Police Do Traffic Stops?' Journalist Malcolm Gladwell On Rethinking Law Enforcement — Reforming The LAPD
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| 0:00.0 | Hey everybody, it's Anne. |
| 0:05.5 | Street protests are continuing across the country. |
| 0:09.1 | Police departments are enacting changes. |
| 0:11.6 | Confederate statues are coming down. |
| 0:14.0 | What's next in the fight for black equality? |
| 0:17.2 | This hour will take a hard look at how racism infects not only the police, but the entire criminal justice system. |
| 0:24.9 | Keep listening. |
| 0:43.3 | It's to the best of our knowledge. I'm Anne Strange Champs. |
| 0:58.0 | American streets are ringing with calls to reform or defund the police, with demands for real equal justice. But bad cops are just the tip of the iceberg. |
| 1:02.0 | Take a big step back. |
| 1:06.0 | Take a big step back. |
| 1:08.0 | And look what we've done. |
| 1:10.0 | Because more often than not, if you're African American and you get a Take a big step back. And look what we've done. |
| 1:16.8 | Because more often than not, if you're African-American and you get arrested, you don't go home. |
| 1:21.0 | This is Michelle Alexander. |
| 1:42.7 | When a young person is caught with some marijuana in their pocket, or a little cocaine, or whatever it is that young people find themselves experimenting with, young people of all colors, if a young person in the hood is caught with that, their life is over. |
| 1:55.0 | Once you're labeled a felon, the old forms of discrimination that we associate with the Jim Crow era are suddenly legal again. |
| 2:09.6 | Employment discrimination is legal. Housing discrimination against you is legal. Under federal law, you're deemed ineligible for food stamps for the rest of your life if you've been convicted of a drug felony. In a growing number of states, you're expected to pay back the costs of your imprisonment. |
| 2:16.6 | And paying back all these fees, fines, and court costs pay back the costs of your imprisonment, and paying back all these |
| 2:18.4 | fees, fines, and court costs may be a condition of your probation or parole. |
| 2:25.6 | We went from a prison population in the 1970s of about 300,000 to now one of well over 2 million. |
| 2:38.0 | Our system of mass incarceration operates more like a system of racial and social control than a system of crime prevention and control. |
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