Welcome everyone to Family Talk. It's a ministry of the James Dobson Family Institute, supported by

listeners just like you. I'm Dr. James Dobson, and I'm thrilled that you've joined us.

Well, welcome to Family Talk. I'm Roger Marsh. Today we are bringing you part two of a powerful

conversation featuring our own Dr. James Dobson and Star Parker, founder and president of the Center for Urban Renewal and Education.

Star Parker has consulted with Congress on Welfare Reform. She's the author of several books and speaks on college campuses all across the nation.

Her message may ruffle some feathers at times, but it really does come from the perspective

of someone who lived this struggle firsthand.

Dr. Dobson knew Star Parker for decades, and his respect for her work ran deep.

Here's what he shared about his guest as he introduced the conversation.

I have been amazed by her story and her victory over an addiction to welfare that dragged her into a cycle of poverty.

She was really quite hopeless for a period of time as well, but she was able to escape through

God's power.

Now, she has some provocative perspectives about welfare reform and the need of the church

to step up and take care of the poor and the needy.

And her thoughts may be a complete departure from what many people have come to believe in

terms of government's responsibility for welfare.

But I know it will challenge our listeners to hear what she has to say, because this is not

theoretical.

She lived it.

She knows what she's talking about.

And, you know, one of the things that I've heard her say is that when Jesus was speaking

to 5,000 people who became hungry, he turned to his disciples and said,

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