Welcome to the pod save the world, I'm Tommy Vittor.

I'm Ben Rhodes.

And we are doing a special edition of Pod Save the World

for very horrible reasons.

The Russian opposition leader and anti-corruption activist Alexi Navalny has been

announced dead at the age of 47 so very very terrible Ben who folks on YouTube

will see is actually calling in from the Munich Security Conference the beating heart of the blob

Ben. How's it going out there?

Yeah, I saw like 900 people that you know Tommy but like let's say it's a

jam-packed event here but I will say like an somber thing I mean

Julia Navalny is here, his wife. And so, and actually for people who listen to another Russia,

Jana Nemsova, whose father, Boris Nemsov,

was also assassinated by Vimer and Putin Cheese here as well.

And so that kind of added this poignancy

to a conference, otherwise it was a lot of people

being anxious about Ukraine funding and American politics.

Like it just kind of drove home that these are really big stakes in the world.

Yeah, well said.

We'll listen to a clip of Yulia and Navalny later.

And I do think, I mean, the fact that this,

there's debates happening in Congress over Ukraine funding.

There's the Munich Security Conference happening right now.

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