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What must impulse. start at vanta.com slash calm. Hello and welcome to this breaking news episode of what most people think.

And of course we had to get together to have a chat at the end of this week

where we have to further fallout from Kea Starma blundering in to a situation

and firing a civil servant who it turns out everybody loved.

I mean, listen, some of us remember

Olly Robbins from the Brexit years and he's got baggage there. But it certainly seems that

within the game, within the civil service game, he was loved. He was a made gay. Sir

Ollie Robbins, no less. And so that doesn't seem to have been that well fought through. And there's

been blowback throughout

the week there's been several articles one of them in the new statesman which we'll refer to later

in the show pretty damning headline and front page I mean the new statesman is basically like

the left wing spectator right so that can't be good for him we also had an interesting

p and queues and and I was on, you know, the Jeremy Vine

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