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Hi everyone.

Welcome to Murder She Watch, the podcast where we solve murders from our couches. I am Amy Archer. I'm your host and I am here today, hot off the presses with Jodyne Weber from Caught in My Web, the true crime podcast that I can't stop listening to.

Oh, thank you. Welcome, Jody. How are you? Thanks for having me back, Amy.

Great to see you.

And boy, you did get me right hot off the press.

We got a verdict less than five minutes ago.

We did.

We're here today to talk about Brian Walsh.

I wanted, you know, one of my questions to ask you is what you think the verdict is going to be.

So the verdict just came in.

Yes. Guilty. First degree murder. Did you expect that? Well, I was surprised at first degree

murder. I was leaning more towards second degree murder because so many people thought, well,

you know, all these Google searches were after the fact.

So had he premeditated this, he would have done that days or hours before killing her.

However, when you look at the definition of premeditation, there's no time window or span on what constitutes premeditation. It can be as simple as walking from the

kitchen, grabbing a knife, and walking into the living room. So that's all you need. So the question

becomes, what did the jurors see that they felt constituted premeditation.

And in the closing argument by the prosecutors, they argued, look at that rock.

Look at the blood on that rug with the blood clot and the broken clasp of the necklace.

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