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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Breaking free from big tech and big content with authors Cory Doctorow and Rebecca Giblin

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.33.2K Ratings

🗓️ 10 January 2023

⏱️ 86 minutes

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Summary

Last year I spoke with Cory Doctorow and Rebecca Giblin about their new book, Chokepoint Capitalism. It’s a book about artists and technology and platforms, and how different kinds of distribution and creations tools create chokepoints for different companies to capture value that might otherwise go to artists and creators.. In other words, it’s a lot of Decoder stuff. As we were prepping this episode, the Decoder team realized it previews a lot of things we’re going to talk about in 2023: antitrust law. Ticketmaster. Spotify and the future of the music industry. Amazon and the book industry. And, of course, being a creator trying to make a living on all these platforms. This episode is longer than normal, but it was a really great conversation and I'm glad we are sharing it with you. Links: What is Mixer, Ninja’s new exclusive streaming home? Ninja returns to Twitch This was Sony Music's contract with Spotify Transcript: https://www.theverge.com/e/23311918 Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. It was produced by Creighton DeSimone and Jackie McDermott and it was edited by Callie Wright. The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Our Editorial Director is Brooke Minters and our Executive Director is Eleanor Donovan. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hey, it's your friend Nila. I just want to tell you about our new newsletter. It's

0:53.5

called Command Line. It's written by the Verge's Alex Heath and it's all about the tech

0:56.6

industries inside conversation. The scoops, interviews and analysis, you won't get anywhere

1:01.0

else. Here's Alex.

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Each week you'll get scoops about what's coming next from tech giants like Apple and

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Metta and hear about the product and people moves that matter. And I want you to be part

1:10.0

of the conversation. So I'll be answering questions and featuring what you have to say.

1:13.9

Head on over to theverge.com slash command line to subscribe today. That's theverge.com

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slash command line.

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Hello and welcome to Decoder. I'm Nila Patel, Editor and Chief of the Verge and Decoder

1:24.2

is my show about big ideas and other problems.

1:27.6

Running a little bonus episode to start off 2023. It's a talk I did with Cory Doctoro

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