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Archetypes

Breaking down 'The Bimbo' with Paris Hilton & Iliza Shlesinger

Archetypes

Archewell Audio

History, Society & Culture

4.2967 Ratings

🗓️ 18 October 2022

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

In this candid and eye opening episode, Meghan breaks down the labels of “Bimbo” and “Dumb Blonde” and explores why brains and beauty in a woman have been historically pitted against each other. To delve deep, Meghan connects with Paris Hilton in a surprising and revealing conversation, as Paris opens up about the trope that defined her, how she at times played into it, and how she is now coming into her own.

Journalist Clare Malone also joins the conversation alongside comedian Iliza Shlesinger, as Meghan unearths who is really in on the joke.

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0:00.0

Lemonade.

0:05.0

The other night I was flipping through the channels on TV.

0:10.0

This, by the way, is a rarity when you have two children under the age of four.

0:15.0

But I saw an episode of a game show called Deal or No Deal.

0:19.0

This brought back a lot of memories.

0:42.0

Megan, open the case. Back in 2006 I had a short stint as a briefcase girl on the US version of the game show. Now my experience on the U.S. version of the game show. Now, my experience on the show, which included holding, said briefcase on stage, alongside 25 other women doing the same,

0:51.0

it was, for me, fascinating. I had studied acting in college at Northwestern

0:58.8

University and like a lot of the other women standing on stage with me acting was what I was pursuing.

1:05.2

So while Deal or No Deal wasn't about acting, I was still really grateful as an auditioning

1:10.4

actress to have a job that could pay my bills. I had income, I was part of the

1:15.2

union, I had health insurance. It was great. And yet I had also studied international relations in college.

1:25.8

And there were times when I was on set at Deal or No Deal and thinking back to my time working

1:31.8

as an intern at the U.S. Embassy in Argentina and Buenos Aires,

1:36.0

and being in the motor cave with the Secretary of Treasury at the time and being valued specifically for my brain.

1:45.0

Here, I was being valued for something quite the opposite.

1:49.0

I mean, you have to imagine just to paint the picture for you

1:52.0

that before the taping of the show all the girls

1:54.8

we would line up and there were different stations for having your lashes put on or your

1:58.4

extensions put in or the padding in your bra. We were even given spray tan vouchers each week.

2:06.5

Because there was a very cookie cutter idea

2:09.7

of precisely what we should look like.

2:12.3

It was solely about beauty and not necessarily about brains.

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