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Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski | True Crime News & Commentary

Breaking Down Lori Vallow Daybell's Delusional Role As Her Own Attorney

Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski | True Crime News & Commentary

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🗓️ 9 April 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Breaking Down Lori Vallow Daybell's Delusional Role As Her Own Attorney
A Dead Man, a Doomsday Plan, and 47 Minutes of Silence

Charles Vallow was shot twice inside a house he paid for. He lay dead on the floor for 47 minutes before anyone bothered to call 911. And now, the woman once married to him—Lori Vallow Daybell—is on trial for conspiring to make that happen.

This isn’t Idaho. It’s Maricopa County, Arizona. But the woman at the center of the story is the same: convicted murderer, former beauty queen, five-time wife, and self-proclaimed spiritual warrior who believed people could become “zombies” possessed by evil spirits. In this trial, Lori isn’t just the defendant—she’s also her own attorney. Representing herself, cross-examining witnesses, and objecting to testimony as she fights charges that she orchestrated the murder of her estranged husband in 2019.

According to prosecutors, Lori conspired with her brother, Alex Cox, to kill Charles so she could cash in on a $1 million life insurance policy and clear the way to marry Chad Daybell—an LDS fiction author and her apocalyptic soulmate. They say this wasn’t spontaneous. It was a plan rooted in delusion and tied up in scripture. Days before the shooting, Lori texted Alex: “It’s all coming to a head this week. I will be like Nephi, I am told, and so will you.” In LDS scripture, Nephi is known for killing a man because God commanded it.

On the morning of July 11, 2019, Charles texted Lori’s other brother, Adam, with a warning: “They’re planning something.” Adam replied, “Absolutely.”

Charles showed up at Lori’s Chandler home to pick up their son, JJ. He never made it out alive.

The first shot went through his chest and pierced his heart. He fell. Then, according to testimony and forensic evidence, a second shot was fired from above, traveling downward into the floor, where the bullet lodged in a baseboard across the room.

Maricopa County firefighter Scott Cowden testified that when he arrived, Charles was already cold. No pulse, no breath, no attempt at CPR. Cowden, who teaches CPR for a living, said he knew right away no one had tried to save Charles. When he started compressions, he felt the telltale crunch of an untouched chest cavity. It’s the grim equivalent of walking into a house and smelling smoke—you just know.

What Cowden didn’t see? Blood. Aside from the pooling around Charles’s body, there was nothing. No trail down the hall. No mess in the kitchen. No bloody towels, napkins, or paper—despite Alex’s claim that he’d been holding his bleeding head. Cowden said the paper towel Alex had was mostly clean. He also noticed Alex didn’t look injured. Didn’t act it either. He described him as calm, nonchalant. Sunglasses still perched on his head, perfectly balanced and unbothered—odd for someone who supposedly just wrestled with a former semi-pro baseball player.

Then there’s the silence. Lori left the house with JJ and Tylee, taking Charles’s rental car. She went to Burger King, then Walgreens, then dropped JJ off at school. She spoke with Alex twice while out. Still, neither of them called for help until 47 minutes had passed.

Lori told officers she fled the scene in fear. That Charles had come at her with a bat. That Alex had to step in. But investigators say the entire story was staged.

In court, prosecutors pointed to Lori’s motive: Charles had secretly changed the beneficiary on his life insurance policy months earlier. Lori was out. His sister, Kay Woodcock, was in. After Charles’s death, Lori called the insurance company—and only then learned she wasn’t getting the money. She texted Chad Daybell: “He changed it in March. It was probably Ned before we got rid of him.” “Ned” was the name she gave the evil spirit she believed had overtaken Charles.

Witnesses will testify that Lori claimed Charles was possessed and needed to be “cast out.” That she led a group of women in a spiritual exorcism. That she talked about drugging Charles with JJ’s crushed pills. That Alex openly said he wanted Charles dead. One witness, Christina, said Lori brushed off her concerns by saying she was joking. A month later, Charles was dead.

Now Lori sits in the courtroom—wearing a navy suit, flipping through notes, calling witnesses, and sparring with the prosecution. When firefighter Cowden testified that no CPR had been given, she pressed him. Asked whether cracking the sternum was guaranteed. Asked about blood patterns. Asked about technique. But Cowden didn’t budge. He said everything he saw—everything he didn’t see—told him no one had tried to save Charles.

Another firefighter, Captain Kent Keller, backed him up. He described the scene as eerily tidy. Charles’s body was in the middle of an empty room. No overturned furniture. No signs of chaos. Just a bat, a ball cap, and a dead man on the floor. Keller told the jury it looked like Charles had been dead for some time before they got there. Lividity and modeling had already set in. Blood had pooled beneath him. His pupils were fixed.

And the detail that stuck with Keller? That everything about the room—the setup, the silence, the strange calm—just felt off.

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0:00.0

This is murder in the morning with Tony Bruske and Stacey Cole.

0:06.1

The trial of Lori Vallot-Daybell continues on.

0:11.1

And I know yesterday I said, maybe she's going to surprise us.

0:16.9

Maybe we're going to see a totally different side of Lori Valo-Daybell.

0:20.6

I take all that back. Yeah, I would hope so. maybe we're going to see a totally different side of Lori Valo Daybell.

0:22.2

I take all that back.

0:24.6

Yeah, I would hope so.

0:27.8

Well, we, I haven't watched much of it today yet.

0:33.4

We're about to watch Kent Keller, who was the captain of the Chandler Fire Department back at the time.

0:33.9

So he was one of the folks who responded to the murder of Charles Vallow. And we're

0:42.1

going to watch a piece of Lori doing cross on this. The prosecution just got done kind of outlining

0:49.1

what happened. And we'll now see Lori ask him the questions.

0:58.4

I did, we did get a little bit of a preview yesterday after opening statements, which she surprised me on.

0:59.6

I thought she did better than I thought she would, which that's a pretty low bar,

1:03.7

but she still like kind of hit the low, low, low bar.

1:09.1

When she's now cross-examining people, it's more kind of like I watched some crime shows,

1:16.3

and now I'm just going to go up and act and say words that really don't pertain to

1:21.1

anything.

1:21.8

I'm just going to ask random questions.

1:24.2

There's no real cognitive direction.

1:27.0

I'm going with anything. And it's basically

1:29.8

filling time to make you feel like you got your participation trophy. That's, that's really

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