All right. Hey, everybody. It's me, Sam Stein, managing editor at the Bork. I'm joined by Sarah Longwell, Catherine Rampel. I'm going to pull back the curtain a little bit on this live show. We had initially planned to talk about Donald Trump's choice for the next Fed chairman, Kevin Warsh. And then a bunch of bullshit happened. And we had to revamp our programming choices.

Don Lemon, ex-CNNN host, independent journalist, substacker, was arrested this morning.

He was arrested in connection with a protest that was done in the St. Paul Church in Minnesota

around what's happening with ICE in the state.

Don Lemon was there,

broadcasting from the protest, interviewing the pastor. His accusers insist that he was inciting the protests, but he was a journalist and he was arrested and it's bullshit. And it's a bit of

a frightening encroachment on our first amendment

rights so we're going to cover both those what we're not going to cover which we could probably

still cover if we wanted to because so much insane stuff is happening is Donald Trump suing

the IRS for $10 billion for the leak of his tax trends just a minor little story on the side

we'll get to that maybe in another live stream.

But Sarah, you go first.

I am pretty hot about this story.

I find it really troubling.

I'm going to get to the insane hypocrisy that I see from a bunch of the people who supported Trump on First Amendment grounds.

But what is your initial reaction when you woke up, or I shouldn't say we woke up when you saw the news break that Don Lemon had been arrested?

Well, the first thing is, I know Don. Like, we all know Don. We know him. And we're all in this world of journalists who are critical of Donald Trump. I mean, I am. Maybe, you know, Catherine Rampel is a very serious economic reporter, but I am in the world.

I've been known to say some critical things of Trump.

Where do I come down in this spectrum?

I want, no, we don't need to go to.

I just, we are people who are not in, let, let's say a CBS vein trying to pull our punches or find a new way of thinking about Donald Trump. Like, we are here to say, what is happening is wrong. Um, and so when you're one of those people and you see somebody else who does that, whether or not you agree, like, I would not have gone into a church protest. That's just like not something, a thing. It's not a thing I would do.

That being said, he has a First Amendment right to report on this. And like, so anyway, the point

...